Jedi Knight
posted 08-26-1999 11:02 AM 
WELL, Hernalt, here's where you've been the last couple days.......... LOL
IP: Interesting that the far right handmaiden (now thought to be Yan) looks shorter than the rest, since what pictures of Yan there are make her look somewhat like a midget. Perhaps she is indeed slightly shorter than the rest... The Kiera Knightley site is getting better all the time, marcel. My only suggestion for improvement is changing the "Filography" banner to "Filmography". IP: Logged May long live this thread...as long as it stays afloat, there is Justice in this universe. (Yeah, marcel, what's with all this Aurra Sing cr@p?!) Well, I just went to that fave-character-votes site and stuffed the ballot box for Sab... Carry on...up with Handmaidens! **Piett** IP: Logged I suppose it is possible that Yan looks an awful lot like Sab. So the handmaiden behind Anakin is indeed Yan. Probably not true but... Anyway, I do not care what Yan looks like. I just want to know what she looks like. Wow, that looks like a contradiction doesn't it? What I mean is I do not care if she is a raving beauty or plain jane. I just think it odd that everyone now knows what Aurra Sing looks like without her makeup and no one seems to know a thing about this girl. Heck, if I were one of the handmaidens I'd make sure everyone knew about it and I'd beg Mr. Lucas for one fleeting insignificant close-up. IP: Logged What! never heard of Filography? Varrice.It's a bizare sexual practice that's very popular in the UK,this will be the most interesting section IP: Logged But to see where I'm coming from with that assessment, you need the Visual Dictionary. There's a picture at the top of page 25 that, instead of the face-on shot you linked to, angles in at 45 degrees, directly showing the profile of the handmaiden (in profile) which your link shows as between Amidala and Palpatine. This profile, I believe you would agree, would not match Eirtae's but would match Rabe's profile. Anyway, again: Eirtae and Queen in Throneroom: Sabe, Rabe and Padme: Eirtae, Queen and Rabe Grrrrrrr...... Rabe, Queen and Sabe (Eirtae's standing behind Binx at the moment): Disco Ball Parade: [This message has been edited by Hernalt (edited 08-26-1999).] IP: Logged IP: Logged I am curious though as to why certain male members of this forum love her so much IN makeup. What is it about her? Her nearly bald head? Or perhaps her big gun? (LOL that last statement made me think of something I saw once in a movie, No I won't go into details) Well, I must say it's a mystery to me, I can understand a guy's attraction to say: Amidala or Sab, but I must admit this Aurra Sing thing has got me scratching my head. There are a lot of jokes about men not understanding women. But sometimes I, as a women, cannot understand you men. IP: Logged IP: Logged I love all the handmaidens!!...they are all gorgeous.....let's see all of them in the next 2 prequels! IP: Logged IP: Logged Yeah, like that will ever happen IP: Logged IP: Logged IP: Logged Sure she has a "hot" bod by the common definition but there are a million identikit, aerobicised bodies out there. Give me girl-next-door with a certain je ne sais qua anyday But whatever rings your bell I guess. IP: Logged ...wins out over ghost-girls with big guns anyday. "Everybody needs a hand[maiden] to hold on to..." -- Darth Cougar Mellencamp IP: Logged You have all profaned the HOLY HANDMAIDEN THREAD by uttering the name of that spawn! REPENT! (however you do that) IP: Logged Sit lotus-style and meditatively chant: "Yan, Sach, Padm, Om." Besides, rest assured that any of the 'maidens could kick A**** S***'s red-painted @$$. ... they're trained in the art of defense, you know; they're dangerous. They just don't feel the need to flaunt it like some certain bald goth chick does. **Piett** IP: Logged IP: Logged IP: Logged IP: Logged IP: Logged An excellent thread so far. Now for an update on the votes.... Padme - 19 Please note, I tried not to add duplicate votes from the same member. As much as I would like to....sorry. May for Force be with you ...and the handmadiens too. Let's keep this thread going..... IP: Logged Sache: http://theforce.net/prequels/oldPreq/characters/sache.html Says: She's Italian, an actress, a screenwriter, and a director. All at 24 years old. The shots in TPM where Sache is visible are [1] One fleeting half-glimpse in the Theed Throne room scene, sitting in the non-focused background. (I believe she's behind Sio Bibble.) [2] Decending stair at Theed Palace. (Caserta Palace, Italy - stair was carved from a solid block of stone in the 1400's.) [3] En route to Camp Four. [4]Theed Hangar, when Queen decides to go to Coruscant. (Set constructed in Leavesden Studios, England.) [5] Naboo Victory Parade can be included if someone distinctly recalls seeing ALL 5. Our picture has 4 and the odds don't favor either Yane or Sache over the other. (Outdoor Theed sets were built at Leavesden as was the Theed Hangar set which Sache was in.) The shots in the TPM:Illustrated Screenplay where Sache is mentioned are: [1] The Theed Throne Room has all the Handmaidens BUT Sabe. The Flash Gordon News Flash has Eirtae and Sache standing behind the Queen. (The movie has the camera capturing only Eirtae, on the left.) [2] Descending stair at Theed Palace. [3] En route to Camp Four. (Visual Dictionary page 27.) [4] Theed Hangar. (Visual Dictionary page 27 - Sache's gaze being turned down may be accounted for by Screenplay and Novelization having her and Yane as crying.) [5] Naboo Victory Parade. Screenplay mentions ALL Handmaidens are present. [This message has been edited by Hernalt (edited 08-28-1999).] IP: Logged What's so cool about Aurra Sing anyway? Besides the fact that she is a female bounty hunter, I wouldn't want to think of her as a personal favorite anyway. Besides, the talks on Natalie Portman has not yet ended. People are still talking about her. No kidding. Anyway, I love Sabe and Rabe so much that I can think up a list of words starting with S and R that can peak your interest. It's so good. IP: Logged And Knightley, courtesy Marcel: TPM: The Making of Episode I page 87, upper: An opposing shot from same 'Return to Naboo' scene with (who I think is) Eirtae, behind Binx. TPM: The Making of Episode I page 87, lower: Closeup of Eirtae in her 'Palpatine Conference' Gown. And the Holy Grail: TPM: The Making of Episode I page 89: An out-focused Handmaiden behind Lucas, but Very visible, with full face. Could This be our long lost Yane? She ain't Sache, she ain't Sabe, she ain't Padme and she ain't Rabe! It's Either Eirtae or Yane! We just need a vote that it Isn't Friday Wilson and we got Candice Orwell! [This message has been edited by Hernalt (edited 08-28-1999).] IP: Logged Now...p89 of the "Making of..." book,the blurry out-of-focus face behind GL is not that of Eritae,it's the wrong shape. I personally cannot totally rule out the idea that it could be Sophia Coppola,she has the same long,thin features.However if you are confident that it's not Sophia then you have your Yane Rotten picture though NB There is a new "6 Degress of Separation" feature on my Kiera Knightley website that links all of Kiera's movies with TPM in a few short steps. IP: Logged Regarding TPM: The Making of Episode I page 89, I have seen that picture on the back of one of the widescreen cards. It is captioned as Lucas giving instructions on the Senate Landing Set. That statement coupled with the fact that the arm on the right side of the picture looks like Senator Palpatine, who was never in the Theed Hanger, leads me to believe it cannot be Yane nor Sache. Therefore, the handmaiden is either Padme, Rabe, or Eirtae. I think it is Eirtae because her eyes look blue, blurred as they are. I've posted a few times, and have yet to vote on my favorite handmaiden. It was a tough choice, but I have reached a decision. Rebel Operative, could you please count another vote towards Rabe, please? Thank you. MTFBWY, IP: Logged Last challenge: TPM: Making of Ep I page 56: Can anyone surmise who the chick is in the white shirt? IP: Logged IP: Logged [This message has been edited by Hernalt (edited 08-28-1999).] IP: Logged IP: Logged Is this a good idea or am I just overobsessing? IP: Logged In my email I basically asked for him to consider interviewing Kiera knightley, by dint that she's been practically ignored for her pivotal role in TPM. There is NOTHING wrong with this idea of petitioning him. He has nothing better to do right now than interview the Handmaidens! Or... Knightley, at the very least. IP: Logged As for the second-to-last challenge, i.e., who's the HM on Amidala's left in the above pic...not to cop out, but the shot is too vague to really tell. Besides, I'm biased toward Sab anyway. You know, there's one shot in TPM which would satisfy any Handmaiden enthusiast here; it would make a great "snapshot", or trading card, or still-img, but I guess we'll have to wait 'til March and place our faith in marcel, Captain of the VidCaps for it! It takes place during the strategy-meeting between the Naboo and the Gungans, just before the Gungan army emerges and marches...during the discussion amidst QGJ, Amidala, Panaka, R2, etc, the camera cuts away to a shot of Anakin (the lil' Casanova!) standing with all the handmaidens in a row, all in their hoodless battle-uniforms (Sabe in the Queen Battle dress get-up of course). Anyone know what I'm talking about here, and have you seen it reproduced as a still somewhere? Under development: The Kiera Knightley: Phantom Actress website! Up with the Handmaiden Panel! **Piett** [This message has been edited by Lieutenant Piett (edited 08-29-1999).] IP: Logged Giantano: It is a good idea. (maybe a little obsessive but aren't we all a little obsessive on this thread? Unfortunately my e-mail isn't working at college (I just moved in) now. When I get it up and running I'll be sure to demand well ask for an article on the handmaidens. Did anyone else see the thread on which characters from TPM would develop a cult following? Does anyone else think that this thread elevates the handmaidens to cult following status? IP: Logged Sooo. Cult of the Handmaidens? I've been a member since TPM viewing #5. I don't see the membership growing too rapidly unless more information comes out. And the Portman Cult fanboys only begin realizing that she's not GOD at a fairly flat rate. The Aurra Sing Cult will start growing at a fairly good clip, since she's as close as EU-wannabeinthemovies people can get to masculinized but super-estrogened Mara Jade. <ick - i gotta go wash my brain out with soap now.> But here's what you can do: Episode I character most likely to develop a cult following The Phantom Menace Character Vote I never did a fanpic of Sabe. I only have the ensembles of Eirtae, Amidala and Rabe: And Yane of Naboo, you have my respect for being a chick groupie on what would normally be a guys' club. [This message has been edited by Hernalt (edited 08-29-1999).] IP: Logged I went over to the freevote booth, and voted for some of our handmaidens. Rabe is the highest on the list, but she's still losing to the Opee Sea Killer for Sith's Sake. Everyone go over and vote! My brothers, sisters, and I are going to see Episode I on Tuesday night. If anyone wants me to look for anything in particular regarding our handmaidens, just let me know. MTFBWY, IP: Logged Hernalt: you didn't mention EXCLUSIVE in your 'Guy's Club'. It IS so after all... Women are invited too as guests... IP: Logged Well, the only part of the movie that I would want you to look at is the same part as usual. The disco ball parade, behind Anakin, is that indeed Kiera? Also can you verify that all five handmaidens are at the event. (only four are in the pic I've seen) MTFBWY always IP: Logged All times are ET (US) Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Version 5.38b
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Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 12:28 PM
Well, I did say I was an amateur, and that much was proven by the fact that I was at least 50% wrong. 
I'll go ahead and go along with you guys on Sab being behind Anakin, but I still think the handmaiden between Amidala and Palpatine is Eirtae, Friday Wilson. Her eyes and the shape of her face just don't point to Rab... she also seems a little bit paler. In my opinion, she looks much more like the handmaiden sitting next to Amidala in the Throne Room image posted here earlier -- Eirtae. Lieutenant Piett
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 12:49 PM
Excellent! Excellent work Varrice, Hernalt, marcel, and all enthused. Yan of Naboo
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 12:55 PM
Well, I must agree that the mystery handmaiden behind Anakin looks like she is indeed Kiera(Keira)sp? Of course this doesn't help me at all, oh well. back to square one again. 
marcel_proust
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 01:21 PM
quote:
My only suggestion for improvement is changing the "Filography" banner to "Filmography". Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 01:23 PM
Varrice, it was from memory that I put Rabe on the right and Eirtae on the left. I saw the movie 15 times and the Disco Ball Parade 25 times. BUT that was over a month ago. So I won't feel stupid if it ends up with Eirtae on the right and Rabe inbetween her and Whoever's behind Anakin. I've been wrong before. 
marcel_proust
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 05:41 PM
IMHO the woman who "plays" Aurra Sing is double-ugly. Yan of Naboo
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 09:13 PM
Now, Now marcel_proust there's no need to be mean Varrice
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 11:08 PM
I'm mystified by the Aurra Sing attraction also, Yan. I find her cadaverous mug about as pretty as the average... well, cadaver. Skywalker23
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 11:10 PM
well...a tough decision..but.... hehhhehhhhehhhh Varrice
Jedi Knightposted 08-26-1999 11:20 PM
I hope you didn't mean what I suspect you meant when you said "All of them". Red One
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 02:29 AM
I hope he does, HeHe. Darth Clerical
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 04:27 AM
HEh... they're all around my age!
Too bad... they're all going to bite the big one by Episode III. Padme Bra
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 04:46 AM
The thing about Aurra Sing for me is that I like gothic girls and she has kind of a goth look. She also has a great body. I think the look would have been pulled off better with a prettier actress though. marcel_proust
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 11:02 AM
For me her facial features are,if not downright ugly,at least disconcerting! Lieutenant Piett
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 01:32 PM
Semi-secretive subtly simmering smouldering sensuality (say: "Sab")... Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 01:58 PM
You have all sinned. Lieutenant Piett
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 02:09 PM
Atonement for this grave transgression:
You know what a dead-on good shot Sab is! tc_master_rank
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 05:33 PM
wow i didn't even know this thread existed until a little while ago. piett did you get the mail i sent you. the club chat times have also changed at the clubs calendar section. for u guy who haven't seen the message board that started the kiera rebel revolution visit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kieraknightleyphantomactress
don't miss out on marcel's page either. you can find link in links section of the club. tc_master_rank
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 05:37 PM
wow i didn't even know this thread existed until a little while ago. piett did you get the mail i sent you. the club chat times have also changed at the clubs calendar section. for u guy who haven't seen the message board that started the kiera rebel revolution visit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kieraknightleyphantomactress
don't miss out on marcel's page either. you can find link in links section of the club. tc_master_rank
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 05:40 PM
wow i didn't even know this thread existed until a little while ago. piett did you get the mail i sent you. the club chat times have also changed at the clubs calendar section. for u guy who haven't seen the message board that started the kiera rebel revolution visit: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/kieraknightleyphantomactress
don't miss out on marcel's page either. you can find link in links section of the club.
TOM Yan of Naboo
Jedi Knightposted 08-27-1999 10:12 PM
Sorry I brought up A***** S**** if it disturbs you so much. From now on I will only write about the handmaidens. Rebel Operative
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 10:32 AM
What the heck? I don't post for a few days and look what happens? Lots more pictures, votes, and discussion without me. I missed this post. Thanks for showing the pictures, I like them a lot. No, I love them a lot.
Sabe - 15
Rabe - 11
Eirtae - 10
Sache - 3
Yane - 4 Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 12:52 PM
Thank you, Rebel, for purifying the Holy Handmaiden Thread with the Holy Handmaiden Votes. (The only thing wrong with Aura Sing is that fanboys jumped on her once they realized it's no longer cool to jump on Portman. I've been jumping on Rabe since Day 1 when I heard that angelic... voice. People should make a Stand. Yeah, I know www.aurasing.net and Michonne Bourriaque's glam shots weren't common knowledge till recently - but you know what I mean.) We may now proceed with our forensic study:quote:
Spy Reports
Jix: Way back in August Jix told us that Sache was one of the characters in the scenes shot at the Caserta Palace.
Valorum: Sofia Coppola (The Godfather Part III), daughter of George Lucas's friend Francis Ford Coppola, plays Sache, a handmaiden to the queen. Rebel Operative
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 01:17 PM
Excellent post, Hernalt. Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 01:36 PM
My next challenge to the Handmaiden Panel is to verify the identity of the Handmaiden on the right of the following 'Return to Naboo' image: (I believe it to be none other than Sabe.) 
TPM: Movie Storybook page 43: A shot from the same 'Return to Naboo' scene (Rabe, Amidala, Sabe-I-think). marcel_proust
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 01:57 PM
I go along with all your identifications of these various handmaidens.
Giantano
Padawan Learnerposted 08-28-1999 02:24 PM
For the "Return to Naboo" scene, my vote goes for Sabe being on the right hand side of the screen. I think Eirtae is behind Jar Jar because of her thinner lips and pale skin, and the one on the right just looks like Sabe.
Andrea "Andy" Giantano Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 02:50 PM
This Handmaiden Panel Delivers.
The guy on Her right appears to be Silas Carson, who would be NuteGunray during filming, and on Her left looks pretty much like Oliver Ford Davies, Sio Bibble, who Is somewhat taller than Sabe. But is that little thing in the middle really Sabe? Or someone standing in for her? Yan of Naboo
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 03:51 PM
Sorry, I can't help you guys on any of the photos you mentioned. I only own one book: the visual dictionary. And may I reiterate(did I spell that right am I even using it in the right context??) that it is a very good purchase. It has fantastic photos. I have started a fan art using the front cover image of Amidala. Does anyone else dabble in fan art. That is the main reason I am seeking out a photo of Yan. I want to do a picture of each handmaiden and eventually(I hope) a rendering of each major character.
I know this really doesn't mean much to any of you. But I want to keep this thread on the first page. So I'm posting. Well next time I am in the bookstore I'll check out the book. page 89 was it? Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 04:45 PM
Well, Of Course we care what you're doing Yane of Naboo! I started doing little icons which I dubbed fanpic, but I probably won't go farther than that. The Holy Grail, for all of us, is an actual picture of Yane, from Anywhere. Page 89 of TPM: Making of Ep I has Palpatine's arm. That pretty much eliminates her as Yane unless she was Standing In for Eirtae during this picture as Lucas was goofing around, pretending to direct. So Yane's not ruled out, especially if they simply did principal photography of all scenes with the handmaidens in Those gowns on a Few certain days, where Lucas would need Everybody there, Just in Case they needed to shoot something different than planned. Yane being There, on that Day, is entirely likely. But her being the blue-eyed out-focused Handmaiden is unlikely. So the search (or wait) continues... We'll probably just have to wait until DVD/video release so some people can do screen captures. Even then, Yane NEVER got a face shot unless it was three or four frames long, about 1/6 to 1/4 of a second. I think Yane of Naboo needs a hug... Ran of Naboo
Padawan Learnerposted 08-28-1999 04:50 PM
I'm voting for Rab Giantano
Padawan Learnerposted 08-28-1999 07:34 PM
I had an idea this afternoon. My brother asked to borrow some of my Star Wars Insider magazines, so we spent a few hours reading together. A feature in each issue is called Star Wars Universe. In it, a writer named Scott Chernoff interviews supporting actors from throughout the saga. He did articles on General Madine, Admiral Motti, and Mon Mothma recently. At the end of each interview, he asks for readers to e-mail their suggestions if they would like to see a particular supporting actor interviewed. Maybe if we all sent off an e-mail we could get our handmaidens interviewed and unlock the mystery of the Sith. They always post pictures, too! His address is SWuniverse@aol.com
MTFBWY,
Andy Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 08:13 PM
Done. Now all you guys should, if you want to put pressure where pressure can put pressure... if you know what I mean... Lieutenant Piett
Jedi Knightposted 08-28-1999 11:35 PM
Done. Yan of Naboo
Jedi Knightposted 08-29-1999 10:43 AM
Thanks Hernalt I believe I saw one of your fanpics. You posted one didn't you? Hernalt
Jedi Knightposted 08-29-1999 05:12 PM
Vague? That's why we have a Panel. We Will get to the bottom... of these images. Good work on your frontpage! And yes, the shot you mentioned is what I have lived on since my fifth viewing... Rabe's dark skin tone... her long, elegant face... dark eyes... *ears*... her inclined head... The memory of that... voice. Excuse me. I have to go get some water.
http://theforce.net/forum/Forum1/HTML/016106.html
http://www.freevote.com/booth/tpm
The escape.
Conference with Palpatine.
Senate Appearance.
The Return. (No Sabe, for continuity - but I guess I could.) Giantano
Padawan Learnerposted 08-29-1999 06:21 PM
Wait, I'm a chick groupie too! Everyone calls me Andy so I understand the mistake, but my given name is Andrea. My favorite characters in films usually tend to be strong females, and I've loved Princess Leia my whole life. What I love about the handmaidens, and Amidala, is there's more there than just pretty faces. They're smart, tough, and can hold their own even with Jedi Knights.
Andy Rebel Operative
Jedi Knightposted 08-29-1999 07:14 PM
Giantano, say Rabe again. She is one of my favorites too....
Just joking around.... Yan of Naboo
Jedi Knightposted 08-29-1999 09:24 PM
Yeah, you can't forget Giantano (or should I call you Andy? Do you care what I call you. ) and me. The brave females of this thread. (of course, we're fans of the ladies for different reasons than you um gentlemen. I like, Andy, am a fan of any strong female character. (I'm also a fan of Adi, Depa, and Yaddle oh and Shmi, and, of course Leia)This topic is 10 pages long: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 next newest topic | next oldest topic 
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